PHIL 231 Chapter Notes - Chapter 5: Ideal City, Nuclear Family, Polemarchus
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Plato says he"s given us the ideal city, which will allow us to make value judgements. Glaucon says, hey, bro, this isn"t ideal, we need women too! Plato to talk about women, children upbringing, etc. Plato makes it clear that children should be brought up by the city rather than by their biological patterns and that men and women with the same ability should get the same kind of education and training and work. So now there will be female guardians and rulers too. The smallest change that would transform an already existing city into the kaillipolis is if its kings or rulers become philosophers or if philosophers become its kings or rulers. Digression on men, women and children: women-warriors and the individuality of justice. Men and women are by nature the same with respect to guarding the city, except that one is weaker and the other stronger.