PHIL-330 Lecture Notes - Lecture 5: Thrasymachus, Intellectual Honesty, Polemarchus
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Socrates likely already knows what his definition of justice is, but he does not know it to be. Sophistry: winning the argument is most important, not getting to the truth. Thrasymachus will give his own definition but will include the words he just banned socrates. (cid:374)ot a(cid:374) a(cid:272)(cid:272)ide(cid:374)tal (cid:272)hara(cid:272)ter (cid:272)hoi(cid:272)e (cid:862)wild (cid:271)east(cid:863), (cid:862)lio(cid:374)(cid:863). He does(cid:374)"t agree with socrates views and behaviour. Thrasymachus believes he knows best; he is angry because. Polemarchus would no longer hire him to teach rhetoric and receive payment, when polemarchus pledges allegiance to philosophy. The loss of a wealthy customer to philosophy. Thrasymachus insists that socrates gives a definition himself, rather than setting others up to fail: sets parameters of justice being the right, the beneficial, the advantageous [336d]. Socrates insists he cannot provide a definition on those terms, because he is not sure that justice is not the advantageous and the beneficial. true; but also he has been prevented from using words he would use.