POLI 212 Lecture Notes - Lecture 9: Arthur F. Bentley, David Truman, Gout

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POLI 222: Section 3 2018-03-15 7:08:00 PM
Tuesday March 13- Midterm 2
Thursday March 15th
Public and Private Interest Groups
Public interest groups VS private interest groups
o Private goods vs public goods
Difference in the basis of kind of goods they are influencing the
protection of
Rhetorical value both appealing to public
o Rise of influence in courts in determining role of interest groups
Interest/pressure groups
Schatt Schneider “politics is the mobilization of bias”
Politics doesn’t happen until there is mobilization,
not a spectator sport
you cant assume your concerns will be naturally vocalized
Key Question
Where do groups come from
How and to what degree are they organized
How and under what conditions do they exert influence?
What role do they play in democratic politics
Interest group pluralism
pluralism: there isn’t just one general will, there are many interests
and therefor many different organizations competing in a political
system of field
o assumes field is competitive
somehow organizations will have a voice
all are involved in a particular policy domain
see all voices as equal (which is untrue)
o first generation of scholars: Arthur Bentley, David Truman
State as a neutral arbiter: objective of state is to ___ competing
voices neutrally
Problem: where do interest groups come from?
Maneur Olson: the logic of collective action (1965)
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Economist working in the US during the civil rights movement
o This was a significant time for public mobilization
Why would public interest groups form in the first place?
Central conundrum: public goods are distinguished by central
characteristics, non excludability and non-rivalrous
Non Excludability
o The person who pays no costs (doesn’t join/participate or pay
into the costs) of developing the good cannot be excluded
from joining the good once its produced
Get to benefit
Non rivalrous
o One persons use of the good doesn’t diminish the other
persons use of the good
Free riders attracted
o Individual rationale to not pay costs of participating in groups,
o So why do we still see these groups?
Olson’s answer external inducements
The functioning of an interest group system
Neo-intuitionalism
o Paul’s policy community model an organizational field of a
number of different actors
Complexity of a policy field
o Who are the central actors
o What are the relationships between them
o Not just “business” or “gout”
Corporatism
o Interests are organized in a mere rigid, elite level structure
o Ex: Europe, China
o Much more hierarchical
o example that leads is based in labour and business groups
(rather than central periphery)
o umbrella organizations representing business’ interests
Neo-Marxist
o Capitalist class, actors themselves defined in class inspired
terms
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Think about interest groups as another way in which collective demands
are formulated and presented to governments
A way of linking demands and authority
Common critique of interest group politics
Democracy in peril/regulatory capture theory
Mandate to speak on behalf of someone, worry that state will be
captured by interests of regulator
o Fear based in accountability (buying gout/regulatory capture)
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