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CLAS 2051
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Fiona Black

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Greek Philosophy
Plato's Republic- focus on the "Guardians" of the Republic, Socrates
o believed democracy as it was did not work, not just anybody has the ability to
make democratic decisions
o the philosophers are the ones who should make decisions because they can "see
through the chaos"- requiring training
o Socrates known as a "midwife of knowledge"- helped people give birth to great
ideas
o Plato hopes to have philosophoi running the country
o Plato's opinion (radical at the time) that there is no reason for men and women to
both be educated (men just slightly above women due to their physical strength)
pg 73 WLGR- asks whether female guard dogs or male guard dogs make a better
guard; shows that if they are both trained the same, they are capable of the same
things
o eliminate hierarchy based on private property- Guardians could not own things
privately, everything was common
o non-monogamous, "mate" with suitable partner, child goes into a "pool", one
cannot identify or "own" one's children
o anomalies with the work:
if a male Guardian accomplishes something, he can be awarded a female
Guardian as a prize- in conflict with egalitarian ideas presented before
o while men and women within society are not equal, they CAN be equal
Plato's Laws
o pedantic list of laws
o maintains idea that women and men can be equal
o pg 74 WLGR- speaks of inherent weakness in women; even so, they can still be
equal

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Greek Philosophy  Plato's Republic- focus on the "Guardians" of the Republic, Socrates o believed democracy as it was did not work, not just anybody has the ability to make democratic decisions o the philosophers are the ones who should make decisions because they can "see through the chaos"- requiring training o Socrates known as a "midwife of knowledge"- helped people give birth to great ideas o Plato hopes to have philosophoi running the country o Plato's opinion (radical at the time) that there is no reason for men and women to both be educated (men just slightly above women due to their physical strength) pg 73 WLGR- asks whether female guard dogs or male guard dogs make a better guard; shows that if they are both trai
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