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POL 208 - Liberalism Vs Realism

Politics and Public Administration
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POL 208
Wayne Petrozzi

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on one hand we are moving towards states that are more democratic
liberal states want mutual gain
Mutual Gain:
1) We both get benefit
2) A gets more than B
3) B gets more than A
They want politics out of international economics
Nafta is international trade regime; once that is named, politics is irrelvent;
companies can do whatever they want
once a country signs on to int'l trade agreement; politics is left out, companie
s control the agreement
Mostly British economics made this claim or argument to international trade: Joh
n Stuart Mill, David Ricardo, etc.
2nd perspective:
Realism - Oldest perspective, traced back all the way back to greece (Thucydides
-Can be associated with Machiavelli, Thomas hobbs
-Most influential system on international relations
-GOne under different names at different times: New protectionism, burgler????is
-Realists start from the premise that politics dominated economic, It should. Ec
onomics should be subordinate to the state
-They believe that the state, national security, military power are the keys to
understanding the international system
-Why? They come from different roots
-Hobbs: Came to these perspectives from social-psychological perspective
; when hobs seems human nature, he sees mean, calculating, harsh, competitive in
dividuals, who are always in compeittion for power, competition is endless
-He argues in a society with no power, its a battle against won
another, we need state to fight against a post-apocoloyptic society; reduce conf
lict through the use of gov't power
-His governement is full power and control
-When it comes to int'l system; there is no gov'
t in place, therefore, every state has to see itself in a state of nature, every
state has to look out for itself
-Modern realists are neo-realists; they root their realism on the structure of t
he int'l sytem
-The UN is NOT a world governemtn, they dont have the right to do anything reall
-Realist view is that states are responsible for itself and its own self-defence
-Wealth is and essential means to power
-Power is equally essential as a means to acquiring or obtaining wealth, therefo
re, realists argue wealth and power are the national ends of state power and pol
-Realists argue there is a long-term harmony between the ends of power and ends
of wealth; they argue that at times when national security is at risk it is OK t
o sacrifice citizens wealth for military security
-Industrialization transforms ? a lot of shit
-Once your enemy has military force; so do you or else you will fall behind
-Industrialization has become an important goal that realist say states should p
ursue, to engage in modern warefare
Major objective of all states is industrialization
-industrialization creates more self-sufficiency and increases autonomy
(ability to make your own decisions)
-More importantly, industry is the basis of military power
-it was industrialization that enabled WW1; more precisely, the set of r
ailways that moved the german troops; it also reduced the cost of an artillery s
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