ENGB30H3 Lecture 13: ENGB30 NOTES nov 8

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CLASSICAL MYTH AND LIT
CONT. FROM LAST LECTURE
Book 6
Home Scene
- Hektor and Andromache
o Hektor as father (6.399-404; 466-481)
Looks at his baby in silence
But is very proud of his son, he feels the same devotion to his son as he does to
his land. His son is very closely bound to Troye.
Hektor’s so fears Hektor i his loodied aror ad helet; e see oth
warrior Hektor and Father Hektor in one scene
Hektor removes his helmet and sets it on the ground to make his baby happy,
his baby reminds him of what he is fighting for.
Ironic because Hektor gets beheaded
Hektor prays that his son will be like him
Again, ironic as he does not wish that his baby get a peaceful life, but
one of fighting and glory
This entire scene is ironic and tragic as Troye loses the war, Andromache is
taken as a slave, Hektor is killed, and his son is also killed.
o Hektor as husband
Concerned (6.454-465)
Empathic (6.484-486)
Ligered / efore turig aa fro the plae here he had talked ith his
lad .-516)
Again, shows that Hektor is very dedicated to his family.
o Hektor: family / life or honour?
To an extent, his family and his life are tied together
If Hektor is the ar, his fail lies o happil ad, if he does’t,
Hektor will die and his family will be punished.
Adroahe’s plea ad adie .ff
She offers him military strategy, suggests that it is safer for him to stay
behind the walls
“he asks hi to take pit upo her. “he does ot at to lose her
husband and very much wants to help him stay alive.
Hektor’s dilea .ff
He feels as though he cannot fight defensively (as Andromache
suggested), he would feel ashamed if he were not at the forefront of the
battle.
He feels that Troye will inevitably be destroyed but he feels that he HAS
to win glory for himself and for his father.
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The inevitable fall of Troye gives him extra fuel to fight and gain as much
glory as possible before it is too late.
Visual of Hektor and Andromache going separate ways (6.494ff)
As soon as Andromache gets home, she starts mourning for her
husband
Although they are going separate ways, they are bound to meet again in
the end
Book 9
- Ahaias’ Failed Eass to Ahilleus
o Agaeo’s oerture .-161)
Agamemnon agrees to apologize to Achilleus and promises to reward him if he
does come back
o Odsseus’s arguet for h he should aept Agaeo’s apolog
Your father told you to keep a check on your anger (9.252-260)
You’ll e hadsoel opesated
Take pity on the other Achaians
You can win great glory by killing Hektor
o Phoii’s arguet
You’re like a so to e udersorig Ahilleus’s oetio to other hua
eigs, ad I ko ou’re ot pitiless .
Even the gods can be moved by human contrition/ devotion (9.496-501)
Take the peace offering now and enjoy being honoured; if you continue to be
obstinate, your honour will diminish even if you were to change your mind later
(9.602-605)
o Aias’s arguet
Everybody takes recompense and moves on (9.632-638)
We want your comrade ship (9.640-642)
o Phoninix and Aias make the point that it is ok to act like normal people, even gods take
recompense
- Ahilleus’s reasos for rejetig offer
o e are all held i a sigle hoour .-336)
He lost his desire to fight because he feels that no matter how much he works
hard to fight and gain honour, Agamemnon, who did nothing, gains the same
honour
He feels this as he he as eig dishooured  Agaeo, the other
warriors just sat there and watch it happen, and as such dishonoured him as
well.
o Agamemnon cheated me (9.344-345); I’ still ad he I reeer hat he did
(9.646-648)
Mopey Achilleus, seems to be going through an existential crisis
o Life is worth more than anything else (9.400-416)
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Hektor and andromache: hektor as father (6. 399-404; 466-481) Looks at his baby in silence: but is very proud of his son, he feels the same devotion to his son as he does to his land. If hektor (cid:449)i(cid:374)s the (cid:449)ar, his fa(cid:373)il(cid:455) li(cid:448)es o(cid:374) happil(cid:455) a(cid:374)d, if he does(cid:374)"t, Gods can entirely overpower / control indicidual humans: )eus puts hektor i(cid:374) (cid:862)a te(cid:373)per that (cid:449)as (cid:449)ithout stre(cid:374)gth(cid:863) (cid:894)(cid:1005)(cid:1010). (cid:1010)(cid:1009)(cid:1009)-658, zeus puts patroklos in a fury (16. 684-692, death of patroklos (16. 787-804, apollo directly strikes patroklos. Destiny as something predetermined: )eus"s prophe(cid:272)(cid:455) to hera a(cid:271)out (cid:449)hat is to (cid:272)o(cid:373)e (cid:894)(cid:1005)(cid:1009). (cid:1009)(cid:1013)-71, repeated references to destiny, apollo to patroklos (16. It is not destined that the troja(cid:374)s (cid:449)ill fall at patroklos"s or a(cid:272)hilleus"s ha(cid:374)ds. Therefore, do(cid:374)"t tr(cid:455). (cid:862)deadl(cid:455) desti(cid:374)(cid:455), (cid:449)ith the so(cid:374) of leto, has killed (cid:373)e(cid:863) (cid:894)(cid:1005)(cid:1010). (cid:1012)(cid:1008)(cid:1013)(cid:895) (cid:862)death a(cid:374)d po(cid:449)erful desti(cid:374)(cid:455) are sta(cid:374)di(cid:374)g (cid:271)eside (cid:455)ou(cid:863) (cid:894)(cid:1005)(cid:1010). (cid:1012)(cid:1009)(cid:1007)(cid:895)

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