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Lecture 10 CLA204 March 13th
- Missed lecture 9 (1hr after 2nd test)
- Lecture after test 2
dionysus, bacchus, liber (same person)
admitted to patheon of olympus than others
some say replaced hestia to become one of the twelve initial 12
olympians
god of wine, god taught the art of turning the juice of these fruit
into wine, wine was the everyday drink of the time
identified as a male object of fertility (other side of demeter),
encourages the flourishing of everything that is alive, associated with
water, blood, semen (liquid entities)
he can be viewed as a companion to the great fertility goddess,
associated with death and life
thick lushous ivy is the representation of him, if this appears, then
he will follow
always represented young and beautiful, only rarely with a beard
wears a leopard skin and has panthers pulling his chariot, dionysis
ferocity, sexual virility in animals characterization, associated with
animals, beautiful, live and terrible like the god himself
associated with goats which are notoriously sexual and bulls, can
change his shape into a bull too
pine tree that stays green all year is also associated to dionysus
many myths about him, many pieces are put together, clashing
information, 2 homeric hymns about him, a tragedy called bacchi
he meets ariadne, he comes with a band of many things, and marries her,
he was born in thebes, and has strong associations with the city of
thebes, story of dionysus's birth, born out of zeus's thigh, known as
the twice born god, his father is zeus, mother is mortal semele, she
wants to see him in his normal form, she dies after seeing him
hera queen of heaven, struck the god with madness, that he would later
bring to his followers, he wandered around egypt, asia minor, and
frygia, he wandered around in the far east that he brought back to
greece, his frenzy and madness, his followers were called baccae (women
possessed by baccus), bacchantes, maenads, thyiades (look
updefinitions), most of his followers were women, he had a satyr
(define)
silenus and satyrs, a lot of art with these people/creatures, he brings
back with him a new kind of religion that he adopts in the east during
his madness, it is resisted b/c new and foreign and not the norm
culture, not easily accepted, everyone who rejects him is punished,
quite vicious
daughters of someone who don't want to do his bidding, makes them think
that they are cows but are not, and they wander off as people thinking
they are cows
resistance to his cult and the vengeance to the people that resist him,
he goes back to thebes to punish his mom's sisters b/c the sister's
made fun of semele when she said her baby was fathered by zeus
pentheus resists dionysis, no one is any of these stories blames
dionysus for taking this vengeance, his association with death was not
questioned, fits in with him being a fertility figure, a cycle
association, life, death, renewal, sometime it comes in the form of
vicious punishment
dionysis is sthe opposite of what a mind thinks as good and right
dionysium relgion was different from other religions ands gods, other
olympians were known through what they did (zeus - lighting), they
weren't manifested into actual people most of the time, the greeks
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Lecture 10 CLA204 March 13th
though believed that they could believe dionysis's existance directly,
the god that comes to people, the sudden and violent arrival of
dionysis into greek citieis is heard of
enthusiasmos - being filled with the god, the gods presence and his
followers, when he is in presence, his followers lost their own identiy
and became in a way possessed by him
you are scared of him and don't make fun of him
don't know exactly why he is associated with theatre, other than he
liked theatre
city of thebes - city in greece, site of stories of cadmis, of edipus,
dionysus, narcissus, as a city it was a major rival to athens, cadmis
is assocaited with the foundation of thebes, brother of europa?, who is
europa, cadmis goes chasing after her (girl on bull - zeus) and ends up
in thebes and controls it
the seven against thebes, when greece was fighting with persia, led by
athens, thebes actually sided with the persians, when persians lost,
thebes punished, only intervention from sparta thikning thebes was a
balance, sparta helped save it, theban cycles of myth
Myths of Thebes
Myth is not literature in an of its self. Literature uses myths
- Our experience is through literature, but these those don’t tell the story the same ways as the
myth
- Myths don’t have authors
- How myths are used and how they are preserved depends on the author that uses it
- Literature uses myth : factor of how myths are changed and the way they are told
- The accounts of the myths have authors
Double foundation of the Thebes
Europa and the Bull
- Zeus seduces europra in the form of a beautiful bull
- Europa is put on the display for the audiences gaze
- Europa and the bull sail off to Crete
- Her brother is the founder of Thebes
- Cadmus is her brother
- The oracle tells him to follow the cow
- Cadmus brings the alphabet with him
- When the cow choses the place, Cadmes has to defeat the dragon and has to sow the teeth.
- Warriors come up and start to fight with each other
- This is the foundation story with the dragon slayer. Cadmus marries Hadmonia
- The men that grow from the teeth fight each other
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Lecture 10 CLA204 March 13th
- Thebes is unique has 2 separate foundation stories
- 2nd foundation story: Myth of the twins : Amphion (plays a Lyar) and Zethus
- Their parents are Zeus and Antopi
- They have complete opposite natures
- These twins are best friends
- Zethus: man of action / hunter/ herdsman
- Power of art and music reveals itself when they need to build the walls of thebes
- Amphion calls the rocks (what the walls are built with) with his music
- The two of them ruled in Harmony
- Amphion married Niobe
- This story is kind of a folk tale. They have been abondonaned and adopted by someone else.
- Rome is also foundation story of twins. Romulus and Remus of Rome hate each other bitterly.
- Story 1: dragon slayer story 2: folktale of the twins
- How are these stories put together?
o Cadmus (dragon slayer) found the higher city.
o Cadmea city (after its founder)
o The twins built the walls around (the lower city). They have 7 different gates
o Ovid is the buyer
Starts with Cadmus
And the other myths are disasters
Actaeon
- He is a Hunter
- He is punished accidently seeing what he shouldn’t
- He is a Theban
- He is hunting
- And he is on a break and looks for a shade.
- Diana (Godess of hunting) is naked and Acteaon sees her bathing
- Diane is a virgin. By being seen as a mortal man she takes it as a rape
- She splashes water on him and turns him into a deer with long horns
- So she punishes him. He becomes a hunten stag. He is hunted by his own pack of dogs.
Pentheus
- His birth place is Thebes
- In relation to seeing and knowing
- Another case where he sees something hes not supposed to see
- Dionysus ( God of grape and harvest) lured Pentheus to spy on the Bacchis rites disguised as a
woman
- He is torn apart by his own mother (agada) and his sister
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Document Summary

Missed lecture 9 (1hr after 2nd test) Myth is not literature in an of its self. Our experience is through literature, but these those don"t tell the story the same ways as the myth. How myths are used and how they are preserved depends on the author that uses it. Literature uses myth : factor of how myths are changed and the way they are told. Zeus seduces europra in the form of a beautiful bull. Europa is put on the display for the audiences gaze. Europa and the bull sail off to crete. Her brother is the founder of thebes. The oracle tells him to follow the cow. When the cow choses the place, cadmes has to defeat the dragon and has to sow the teeth. Warriors come up and start to fight with each other. This is the foundation story with the dragon slayer. The men that grow from the teeth fight each other.

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