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Xenophon

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Classics
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CLA232H1
Professor
Victoria Wohl

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A kaloskagathos spends his time outdoors, living a virtuous and vigorous life. He could
not spend all his time outdoors, however, were his wife not just taking care of the
household.
Thing thing that enables the man to do kaloskagathos activities is that he has a
woman in his house, managing things.
9.5: Womens quarters should be separated from the mens quarters, even the women
slaves separated from male slaves. The proper, upright, noble woman stayed in the
womens quarters of the house. Lysias the lawer says, of his evil vicious opponent: “he
even broke into my house, where he saw my sister and my nieces, who had never been
seen by a man before.
They would go out for religious festivals; it was their chance to be out and in public, but
the thought was they would see men and cheat on their husbands. When a man
seduces your wife, he is a kyrios, and youre allowed to kill him.
The rules about women, though, only applied to respectable, upper class women. Lower
class women needed to work, prostitutes had no respectability, etc. This is the ideal;
but we dont even know how much this ideal was respected. The ideal goes back to the
themes of the Pandora myth, institutionalizing Hesiods Pandora myth (women cant be
trusted, their interior is hidden and unknowable, they are genetically and essentially
different from men, etc).
Why might you want to marry a 15 year old? When his wife came to him at 15, she had
known almost nothing short of appetite control. He teaches her all she needs to know:
he tames and domesticates her.
3.11: Whenever a sheep is in a bad way, we usually blame the shepherd...but if a wife
manages badly and has been trained well, then it is her fault, but if she is not trained
well, then it is his fault.
Unlike Hesiod, the problem with women is not all physis; it is also, in part, due to his
Nomos.
Critoboulos and Ischomachus. Ischo is the true kaloskagathos, and shows that having a
well-run home is an ethical issue more than a pragmatic issue. Are you the kind of guy
who squanders of invests his money?
A good wife runs her husbands house and keeps it orderly; a well trained wife reflects
the well-disciplined soul of her husband.
7.33: Xenophon imagines the wife as a queen bee (compare to Hesiod). She
commands, knows, and receives what each brings in. The gendered division of labour is
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A kaloskagathos spends his time outdoors, living a virtuous and vigorous life. He could not spend all his time outdoors, however, were his wife not just taking care of the household. Thing thing that enables the man to do kaloskagathos activities is that he has a woman in his house, managing things. 9.5: Womens quarters should be separated from the mens quarters, even the women slaves separated from male slaves. The proper, upright, noble woman stayed in the womens quarters of the house. Lysias the lawer says, of his evil vicious opponent: he even broke into my house, where he saw my sister and my nieces, who had never been seen by a man before. They would go out for religious festivals; it was their chance to be out and in public, but the thought was they would see men and cheat on their husbands. When a man seduces your wife, he is a kyrios, and youre allowed to kill him. The rules about women, though, only applied to respectable, upper class women. Lower class women needed to work, prostitutes had no respectability, etc. This is the ideal; but we dont even know how much this ideal was respected. The ideal goes back to the themes of the Pandora myth, institutionalizing Hesiods
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