Class Notes (839,475)
Canada (511,349)
Classics (1,714)
CLA204H1 (433)

CLA204 17th class

5 Pages

Course Code
Betsy Bennett Purvis

This preview shows pages 1 and half of page 2. Sign up to view the full 5 pages of the document.
June 21, 2013 CLA204 Week 17 Theories of Myth Janus-related literature Livy’s “History of Rome” symbolic way of showing when at war door open not at war closed at war. Augustus was first in many generations to close door. Represent some kind of historical reality. Physical Allegory – Theagenes, Empedocles Earth, fire, air, water. Both natural philosophers based on rational explanations. Theagenes though abt cosmos as series of oppositions. It was more in terms of natural elements world was made of wet and dry etc. When he reads Iliad’s conflict btw Apollo god of Sun and water Poseidon god of sea. Extend ideas and project them to gods. Empedocles-lives generations afterwards. Gods were just allegories for physical aspects of the world. Zeus as fire Hera air Hades Earth, Nestes water each four elements represented by gods. Building blocks of the world. Psychological/Moral Allegory Empedocles believes gods also stand for personality character traits, on one hand harmony joy union categorized as Aphrodite and strife and violence under strife. For ex Judgment of Paris togetherness union cooperation and violence and struggle. Athena embodies wisdom. Hermes adaptability. Ares anger etc. Morally correct. Morally bad behaviours banishments vs. good and rewards. Apollo and Daphne, Apollo falls in love with Daphne who escapes by turning into a laurel tree, moral allegory, Daphne illustrated chastity quality, that other women should behave. Allegorical symbolic of way world works reaction woman should have to stranger. Hera’s offer to make him king of Europe and Asia, Athena wisdom and skill in war and Aphrodite love. Pick pleasure and not successful bad result, moral, represent way Greeks aught to behave. Xenophanes Fragments 21 Human desires=gods. Humans want to project themselves as gods. Load of garbage represents how we want world to be not way it is, gods are so much more then quarrels that populate myths. Plato on Myth Republic dialogue-create set of instructions how to built perfect utopian city. Should be just, talks abt how to educate rulers of city to make city as strong as possible. Children destined to be rulers should be educated and know myths. Myths are way of moulding young impressionable lives. Myth of Er who gets to come back and how you get to take up a new personality when re born. Plato thinks of children as blank slates personality moulded after born, though if children heard frightening stories they would be wimps and vice versa. Ex. Tantalus myth would make someone a bad ruler. But to tell myths where you decide which person you would be to encourage June 21, 2013 them to make clear minded decisions that would help children make similar decisions in future. Stories of gods succession should be told to kids (he doesn’t believe these myths are true) Stories where gods get away with bad things will make kids think they can to. Moral behaviour, if you can make them believe quarrels are sins like Hera being bound by son story of Hephaestus being thrown by father Zeus for standing up to him and trying to protect his mother shouldn’t be told. Dumezils Trifunctional Hypothesis Flamen-Brahman (1929) Dived into 3 functions can take any society pick any person and would be able to assign category, Sovereignty, Warfare or Production. • Sovereignty Religion, magic Law, justice King, priest, magician, lawgiver Sovereignty has authority and knowledge other don’t, can give good advice. • Warfare Physical strength/power Physical violence Warrior elite Warfare, ppl who have physical strength and participate in battle get what they want by physical means. • Production Production of food/wealth Beauty, sex, sexual reproduction Everybody else! (farmers, craftsmen, traders, women) Production, productions of food, material goods etc. lower classes. Reflecting bias of his own world. Flamen =priest. Functions reflected in Devine society as well. st 1 function Zeus/Jupiter, 2 function Athena/Minerva/ and Ares/Mars, 3 function Dioscuri/Quirinus. Quirinus related to 1 2 functions so strange. War of the Functions All myth stories can be explained by conflict btw functions, 1 and 2 function get together and are in conflict with 3 function. Ex. Trojan War; war was started with rd Judgment of Paris god chosen most beautiful (Aphrodite) represents 3 function over 1 (Hera) or 2 function (Athena). Pattern throughout rest of war they have an overabundance of 3 functions Helen, Aphrodite, earned grudge of… Trojans are at home they have wives, kids, and farm fields all productive stuff there, vs. Greeks who don’t and are only worried on Agamemnon’s authority and battling. Outcome of Trojan War only outcome there could be cuz 3 function cant defeat 1 and 2 . st nd Greeks have in balance missing 3 element, need all 3 for society to be successful rd and functional. Greeks don’t do as well cuz they are missing 3 element don’t have wives with them only has other slave women causes conflict btw Agamemnon and Achilles. Way Iliad ends shows stability balanced by all 3, reconcile, Achilles finally June 21, 2013 eats after many days, embraces 3 function, really well as authoritative and fighting then eats, drinks, has sex with Bresais thus finds balance. Resolution to most myths is cuz functions are all re-established. Dumezil and the Rape of the Sabine Women Rome when Romulus first founds it brings criminals and bandits into Rome if analyze using hypothesis problem is that they are missing the women. Romulus sovereigns everyone else to fight but no families and children. Romans and Sabine’s go to war cuz want to marry daughters but are refused permission conflict is resolved cuz women agree to stay and be roman wives. Myth as History – Euhemerus Earliest proponent of idea is from Euhemerus who’s basic idea was humans and gods historical figures used to be normal ppl who did good things, good things get blown out of proportion as time goes on. Become gods cuz ppl remember what they did when they were kings and exaggerate stories. Heracles cleaning stables diverting river theory that Heracles was normal guy who cleverly came up with idea, other details get added over time. Fundamentally real person who did real thing. Herodotus and Historia >(inquiry) Helen in Egypt Herodotus was going around seeing things for himself talking to ppl who witnessed events sees documents then used all that to construct historical merit. Herodotus though it
More Less
Unlock Document

Only pages 1 and half of page 2 are available for preview. Some parts have been intentionally blurred.

Unlock Document
You're Reading a Preview

Unlock to view full version

Unlock Document

Log In


Join OneClass

Access over 10 million pages of study
documents for 1.3 million courses.

Sign up

Join to view


By registering, I agree to the Terms and Privacy Policies
Already have an account?
Just a few more details

So we can recommend you notes for your school.

Reset Password

Please enter below the email address you registered with and we will send you a link to reset your password.

Add your courses

Get notes from the top students in your class.