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Herodotus Sections 1.94 - 216

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University of Toronto St. George
Victoria Wohl

CLA232 Greeks and Barbarians Wednesday February 2 2011nd Herodotus 1.94 - 216 One of the forms of alterity the Greeks used to define themselves Weve already seen it wasnt as black and white as we may have thought (everything about the Greeks must be good and everything about the barbarians MUST be bad) but there were many gray areas Solon and Croesus represent different and competing values the Greek definition of happiness vs. the Asian definition of happiness (the Asians thinking it means power and wealth, Greeks think it means a glorious death, virtue, honouring the gods) This cultural difference will become both the cause of the war and the stakes in the war (what were fighting for is the Greek definition) Complex interdependence between Croesus and Solon (when he is about to be burned he finally understands Solons wisdom, so Croesus learns through Solon and we learn through Croesus) Today we will look more in depth at Herodotus and the relationship between cultural difference and cultural conflict He balances cultural difference and conflict Books 1 4 are largely ethnography Books 5 9 are largely descriptions of the war, but both sections are completely dependent on each other The story of ethnography leads up to the war How culture causes war, etc. Intertwining of cultural difference and cultural conflict Subtly of Herodotus description of the barbarian and other There isnt just a xenophobic Greek perspective of the barbarians, but attempts to see the Persians through Persian eyes and even to see the Greeks through Persian eyes Herodotus In the Archaic period, there was much interaction between Persia and Greece ,and the Greeks borrowed a lot from Persian culture In this period, the rich and elite of Greece looked to Persia for their model (like the early history of NA, modeling their culture after Europe)
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