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Thucydides 1.66-87

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Department
Classics
Course
CLA232H1
Professor
Victoria Wohl
Semester
Winter

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03.28.11 Thucydides 1.66-87 - Us vs. Us ~ problematic o Us vs. Them lets us define ourselves o Us vs. Us could unravel what holds defines us together - Peloponnesian War = Greeks vs. Greeks (climax of internal alterity) - Panhellenism = united Greece o All share same language (though different dialects), religion (though different local heroes, divine patron), ideals, common history (esp. Persian conflict) - Fades in and out throughout Greek history (Panhellenism as idea and ideal) o Prominent during foreign threat (Persians) o Disappears upon resolution of foreign threat (creates anxieties bc fighting old allies) - Shifting relationships force Greeks to realize that definitions of Us and Them are not set in stone - Pelop War = civil war - Alterity rooted in history - Different physis and nomos (national character, lifestyle respectively) bw Athenians and Spartans (according to Thucydides) o Makes war bw the two inevitable - Lysistrata >> Persian War as panhellenic moment - Herodotus >> tensions bw Athens and Sparta during Persian Wars (divisions) - Herodotus gave praise to both sides (At
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