DTS200 Lecture #4 October 2 , 2012
- DO A DRAFT AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE TA- 3 parts of the essay which he is
looking for. (Methodological nationalism, imagined community, acultural modernity)
- Speaker even Oct 17: 3-5pm
- The short paper
o Due Oct 23rd
- The general arch of the class-->first case study
- Review geared towards the essay
o You know DTS200 is generally interested in understanding the world.
o Who are we in the world- this is what we are trying to discover
o Who we are as human especially in the western university this is framed by the modern
nation state (Methodological nationalism) we are trying to move to a different vision of
o 250 words: we want to cite 3 distinct readings in the essay. By citing we don’t need a big
block quote; you want to make reference to: Andersons imagined community, or
Charles Taylor acultural modernity. 3 references to three distinct readings that we have
done. DO NOT DO LESS, BUT YOU CAN DO MORE.
o How do we shift away from methodological nationalism and why?
C- intellectually adequate performance: basically get the idea
B- good performance- analytical ability
A- Exceptional performance- everything makes sense, everything is put
o Incorporate the readings and lectures. Make 3 distinct citations
- What we are trying to do?
o We already have basic coordinance- what is a Diaspora and the types of them, we are
moving to transnational today.
o When we move past mythological nationalism there is a scale and how to we measure
o In methodological nationalism the state is what is used up against all measurement
o But when we move past the nation what scale do we use? Here we have 8 (vocabulary)
scales to use. o They are not fixed scales in the world. We already know that the nation is imagined, and
gained density through processes.
- Today we are really defining the 8 scales of analysis( do not put these in the essay)
- A nation imagined
o This term should show up in the essay somewhere
o When we say a nation is imagined what are we talking about?
o What do we mean by this?
There is a sense of unity even though we will never know everyone let’s say in
6 processes: language, news paper, currency, maps, museums, census.
(Anderson said these 6 things)
o What happens wan an isomorphic relationship between nation, place, and culture
Ex: Brazilian culture- this assumption rests on the assumptions that
representations in the social sciences are dependent upon images of break,
rupture, and disjunction.
Isomorphic can only be possible is we actually believe there can be a break
between countries- put this in essay
And this is a social imaginary
What occurred was methodological nationalism- that each nation could be
divided brightly with a big border. We would be shocked to find Brazilians
anywhere else other than Brazil.
o Methodological nationalism has 4 real consequences
1. What about those that inhabit the border?
2. What about diversity within a nation?
3. What about colonial and post
4. What about Diaspora?
o Diaspora refers to the relations between homelands and host nations from the
perspective of those who have moved whether voluntarily or not and to the lived
o The problem of it?
Because if modernity is about the systematisation about culture and land-
rationalizing the world, then Diaspora is an extinction of Diaspora.
Modernity as a process of systemisation (creating border-rationalizing the
world) than Diaspora continually emerges as people, culture, and communities
out of place. Therefore modernity is very important for understanding DTS.
Modernity as a whole.
o A move from traditional societies to societies organized around the processes of a
market industrial economy, secularization, democratization and urbanization
o Diaspora is a problem because modernity is about order and progress while Diaspora is
people out of place. - Acultual modernity
o The working assumption that history and hierarchy work together. i.e. evolution
o The longer you wait the more progress you achieve the better you get
o Charles Taylor.
- August Comte
o Order and progress- Brazil takes this over
o 3 stages of the world
o At the core of his thought that society is just like an organism which evolves through
history just like a creature that becomes more complex over time and another
assumption is that not all societies are at the same stage of development.
o France= stage of science, Brazil= stage of religion but committed to progress
- Acultural modernity
o The prison took over the mode of modernity- order and progress, not only the prison
but cemeteries too- everybody should have their own place.
If we think about this move, this idea that everyone has their own little box
which equal what form of modernity does this articulate? It is not an answer we
can say now and should not be part of your final answer.
But the visual similarities between multiculturalism and Brazilian flag
- Therefore from everything mentioned about what needs to be in the 250 words:
o Isomorphic relationship in space, place, and culture in which cultures get locked down in
one nation by methodological nationalism. Why is this a problem? Because it overlooks
the 4 major consequences. This is like the core of your answer and you want to build
o If there is so much celebration of science in which we need to progress towards science,
then how do we have people losing creditability in science today- because of the late of
creditability in aculturalism and order in progress in general.
- Brazil’s flag vs. Brazil graffiti
o Graffiti- cuts out order and progress from the flag (bandits)
o There is a sense that communities will progress if they wait and follow science but in
Brazil now people are divided less progressively.
o Focuses attention on flows and counter flows and the multi-stranded connections they
give rise to. It encompasses not just the movement of people but the ideas of citizenship
of technology of modes of political organization and of the impulses of markets.
o We are going to look at transnationalism in the perspective of child sponsorship- child
sponsorship is big in north America where you support a child in an undeveloped
societies where you give money daily/monthly which helps with education, food,
clothing and so on.
o In its early stages child sponsorship was strictly in the language of church charity, and
then in the 60s and 70s it is about development. Shifts from th