PHL100Y1 Lecture Notes - Glaucon
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Socrates classifies justice under (b), whereas, glaucon says that most people would put it under (c) as having only instrumental value. Three arguments against justice: injustice is the natural condition of us. There is no motive to be just if we are not powerful enough. Justice itself is not attractive, people are just because there are codes to that we all get by: the ring of gygese (the story shows that people willingly be just) The one who is just, is the one that get"s whipped, beaten, etc. Whereas the unjust man will reap all the conventional rewards and pleasures of life. Socrates draws an analogy of the individual and the society. To figure out if justice is a good or bad thing, it has to be applied to both individuals and society. First apply to society and ten individual.
