Sophists + orators-arguing both sides of a question dissoi logoi". making weaker/worse argument appear stronger or better. Does this because these first accusers have affected jurors since childhood with claims that he does not believe in the gods. Refer to page 24 . cannot bring specific individuals who were his original accusers. What happens in the clouds is that aristophanes takes socrates and makes a composite figure and engaged in natural philosophy. Is zeus not god, who rains, socrates: the clouds who thunders clouds banging together: scientific explanation of things www. notesolution. com. The extent to which philosophy became something known as an established discipline: could be partly a result of plato"s depiction of socrates speech. What is the sign of scepticism: his claim not to have knowledge. Pleasure, does he suggest that he takes any epicurean pleasure in all his actions (references to pleasure at the end of the apology.