POL101Y1 Lecture : December 5thpolisci.docx
19 Apr 2012
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Ancient greek philosophy is written in a way that isn"t familiar to us. War is normally thought of as state on state: talked about war between two countries, usually thought of as state on state. Violence is usually the monopoly of the state. Max weber state: monopoly of legitimate use of violence within a given territory. Very difficult to make sense of neighbor on neighbor violence it takes a lot to make people act like they would in thucydides writings. Ancient greece civil war: family feud, fighting within a community. World war because it was a war in the entire greek world. Era of city states, no over arching states. Back-story: 480bce, beating back persians, athenians led the way (almost single handed-delian league) 479-432 bce rise of athens versus sparta. Contrasts: land versus maritime, oligarchy vs democracy, military vs commericial orientation: very different kinds of political orders, sparta was militarized society, citizenship rights, spartans: people lived under spartan rule.
