POL200Y1 Lecture Notes - Lecture 7: Glaucon, Noble Lie, Nuclear Family
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If you have a problem with this, what do you have in mind: socrates draws attention to the excessive and narrow self-interest that undercuts justice. But the radical elimination of this might cause other problems. Reminiscent of sexual lotteries: maybe something critical in this of those who preach so much devotion to city, towards the end of his discussion of warfare, socrates does not dispute the distinction between greeks and barbarians. Greek nationalism: glaucon wants to hear whether the city can be established in practice. Glaucon has bought into the goodness of the city, he now agrees with very few qualms that civic devotion is necessary: distinction b/w warriors and guardians. All children who have talent and can fight for the city are brought up to do so, but then it becomes clear that within that group, some are more intellectually talented. For the beginning, they are all called guardians. Then there become two: warriors (auxiliaries), and guardians.
