POL200Y1 Lecture Notes - Lecture 5: Socratic Dialogue, Glaucon, Thrasymachus
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Plato(cid:859)s republic 2-3: glaucon and adeimantus take over the conversation: this is significant because they are. It can be used to convince doubters such as thrasymachus: plato depicts socrates as a philosopher who is ready to talk about philosophy whether his audience respected virtues or not. These dialogues would end in a state of perplexity (end of book 1) Justice can be destroyed when people think there is no stable foundation to their commitment: the republic is a kind of super dialogue that completes the socratic dialogue, which is usually not completed. Glau(cid:272)o(cid:374)(cid:859)s challe(cid:374)ge: glaucon says he is not satisfied (cid:449)ith o(cid:272)(cid:396)ates(cid:859)s a(cid:396)gu(cid:373)e(cid:374)ts to th(cid:396)as(cid:455)(cid:373)a(cid:272)hus, glaucon offers a threefold classification of goods. There are things that are intrinsically good for their own sake, like happiness, whose experience consists of their own existence. Then there are things that are good intrinsically and for their consequences ex health. This is the category that socrates puts justice in.
