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Political Science
Clifford Orwin

10/25/2012 8:24:00 PM Socrates contradiction to polemarchus's thought on justice, which depicts socrates view that polemarchus' view is incompetent. Socrates reveals many inconsistencies in this view. He points out that, because our judgment concerning friends and enemies is fallible, this credo will lead us to harm the good and help the bad. We are not always friends with the most virtuous individuals, nor are our enemies always the scum of society. Socrates points out that there is some incoherence in the idea of harming people through justice. glaucon- individuals are self-interested and competitive, but as society develops, people discover the world is a losy place, and we develop rules to make life easier for ourselves. rules of justice are conventions, in that they are chosen. it roots in the self-interested side of human nature. socrates sets a basic self-sufficient society, which is in the same view as polemarchus, but glaucon says it looks ilke a "city of pigs" - people are just interested in sleeping, eating and having babies. book 11- example (glaucon), use as response to socrates' argument and the opposite to what polemarchus explains is just. In Book II, Glaucon tries to reinforce the challenge t
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