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Lecture 11

Lecture 11 - Personality: East & West, Myths & Fairytales

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Maja Djikic

PSY230H1F L11; Nov. 23, 2011 Fairytales bear no relation to each other Personality (caught between East and myths form cycles; ex. same g-ds + West) characters in greek & roman myths Being in ourselves all the time makes it hard Stage of fairytale is ungeographical fairyland to notice our personality; like not noticing air setting for the myths is the actual world til gone (Mount Olympus, for example) Myths, lies, and fairytales Fairly tale = personal gratification, escape May: Many of the problems we confront from frustration & conflict (subjective fn) (anxiety, depression, substance abuse) stem myth = recognition of natural conflicts, from absence of myths w end of serious representation of Myths - narrative patterns that give fundamental truths (moral orientation, significance to our existence not escape) Problem: May include every story we may Same material, but dif uses, dif beneficiaries tell ourselves about meaning, no matter how Ex. little red riding hood has elements of self-deceptive both fairytale & myth; ex. Pans Labyrinth Fictional as simply not true, or artisticly true myth, Twilight fairytale, Harry Potter in a non-literal way (not true in way we usual myth + fairytale suppose) Mythical element draws us, helps w inner struggle Joseph Campbell Myths - metaphors, not lies Metaphorical narratives repetition of Tragedy and Enlightenment 2 Myths qualities King Oedipus Kingdom w threat, hero = from dif Beginning land or 3 son of king, becomes new Delphic Oracle prophesied to Laius, king of Thebes, would be killed by son & this son king = you inside, unreceptive to outside would marry mother reality (you = dragon, alien Shocked, king & queen decided to kill first- kingdom) born son; gave to shepherd to be put on Benevolent aspect of feminine, mountainside to die. Infant's feet were protecting something of value pierced + tied together, & was taken away Represent not search for meaning (help shepherd took pity on child, took him to me find something to believe) but Corinth, adopted by King Polybus & his experience of meaning (help me childless queen find myself, so I can experience Middle both myself and the world) When grown, heard not Polybus son, went Experience meaning of world, not give to Delphi to learn if true world meaning Oracle didnt answer this q, prophesied The Hero w a Thousand Faces would kill father & marry mother. To protect metaphor of personality development parents, decided not to return to Corinth (finding ones real self) Leaving Delphi, came upon man at all characters metaphors of inner state crossroads four attendants who tried to myths found wherever there have been force him from path. Man prodded him & ppl Oedipus, arrogant + quick to anger, slew requires activity to become person, him + three of attendants. Fourth attendant motivates us to open parts of self escaped. that are valuable Not further investigated because Thebes metaphor of dead & alive within self having problems w Sphinx, monster w body reminds of what were doing so of winged lion & breasts + face of woman. drawn to Stood on a rock outside gates & devoured Dif btwn myths & fairy-tales: everyone who failed to solve her riddle: Fairy-tale = imaginary; purpose to gratify "What creature walks on 4 feet in cultural wishes; ex. what women supposed morning, on 2 at noon & on 3 in the to want (marry prince) evening?" Another version: "What has 1 Myth, tho not literally believed, is taken voice & yet becomes 4-footed & 2-footed w seriousness; personality development & 3-footed? Theme of fairytale utopian Oedipus said it was a man. As an infant, myth often tragic death of unfulfilled he crawls on all fours at the beginning or potential, term of development not just "dawn" of his life; when grown, he walks death upright; when old, he walks with a cane. Oedipus solved riddle, Sphinx hurled herself When Siddharta born, his father sent for to death sages to interpret boys birth & they found Oedipus welcomed as savior of city, offered on his body 32 signs he wud be either world the vacant throne. Became king, married ruler or world teacher recently widowed queen. Oracle says 2 basic fates, not just 1 Beginning of an end become a person or dont become Years later Thebes again stricken, now by a person (like his father) King, eager his son shud become a king like plague. Delphic Oracle was asked what could stop city's suffering. Oracle told self, determined to shield child from plague would end when murderer of King anything that might result in him taking up Laius punished. Oedipus dedicated self to religious life. Siddhartha kept in one or solve mystery of murder & rid city of icurse. another of 3 palaces, prevented from Finds out he was murderer. experiencing much of what ordinary folk consider commonplace. Not permitted to Before search for truth complete, Jocasta figures out secret & kills herself. When he see elderly, sickly, dead, or anyone who had discovers her body, Oedipus gouges out his dedicated themselves to spiritual practices. own eyes. Only beauty & health surrounded him. Meaning Siddhartha grew up to be strong & Used by Freud took literally, fate to be handsome young man. As prince of warrior attracted to parent of opposite sex & killed caste, trained in arts of war. When came same sex parent psychological time to marry, he won hand of beautiful inheritance, tragic human nature, must princess of neighboring kingdom by besting displace & live as best as can all competitors at variety of sports. Married Oracle when both 16 yrs old. As continued living in luxury of palaces, Thinks children will be like parents, in oed: aggressive, ruthless proved by promptly grew increasingly restless & curious about dispatching on son world beyond palace walls. Finally Unless make a step to become demanded permitted to see his people & different, fate is to become like parents lands. King carefully arranged Siddhartha Fate
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