- RLG314 Lecture 3
- Cosmological Submission and Social Hierarchies
- Use these slides as a study guide!
- How Eve’s Creation Sets a Natural Order for all women
- Rabbinic Sources:
- Pg. 78: How do the Rabbis reconcile G1:27?
- “So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God and he created them; mal and
female he created them.”
- Contradiction- single and dual creation
- Rabbis needed to explain
- 18.4- creation of two Eve’s
- What are the qualitative assumptions: women’s bodies are icky, destroy creation and start again
- Women’s creation is a cosmological wrong in some ways
- Women after born of the bone don’t have discharge and blood?
- Think of social order and expectation of women
- Pg.81 What is the value of the rib? What does that say about women’s tendencies and the
proper social order (18.2)?
- Rib is modest and concealed
- Nothing positive mentioned
- Only negative qualities set up against modesty
- Because not modest…she is these other things
- Adam and Eve’s Bodies
- Jewish sources pg. 81 and 82
- 81- in Genesis Rabbah 18.2, why the rib?
- 81-82: In Genesis Rabbah 17.8, what does earth and bone say about men’s and women’s
- Men easily appeased, women not
- Earth soaks up water, women bone rots (look at text)
- Way men’s and women’s bodies are described, what it means for women’s social role and who
she is, sets up social expectation for women’s nature
- P.84 and 85 what’s the difference between Adam and Eve’s beauty and why is there a
- Pg.92 the curses on Eve are pretty serious in ‘Eurbin 100b, but Sotah 12b has a softer side. There
what restores a woman’s body to her pre-Fall body?
- Submission to her husband restores her to her pre-fall body!!!!
- Submit to her husband, do not have pain giving birth
- Pain never lifted, hold women to impossible standard, always fall short
- These stories are used in social context
- [[Do not know degree of social norms enacted in the world
- Rabbis argue and argue, intellectual conversation
- Things they say reflective of social context
- Enforce a social context or ideal social context]]
- How Eve’s Creation Sets a Natural Order for All Women
- Christian Sources:
- Pg.134: Origen sets up a need for harmony between pairs, how does this play out in his
discussion of the soul?
- Flesh punishment, lesser than the soul
- If men and women in harmony life is good (gender equity based on social roles) - Do job together and works as a whole
- Things on spiritual level
- “it is just a metaphor for the spiritual struggle”
- Bringing the soul under control the spirit and bring the spirit to God, very heavily gendered
- What does this do to people?
- Man astray- like a harlot women
- Women perfect- like a man….
- Inwardly real world and social effects
- Pg.149-151: Augustine separates the two Creation stories into spiritual and physical. What does
that mean for his notion of women’s social role as a helper?
- Pg.152: Augustine has A and E share the