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Lecture 3

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Lesley Kenny

SOC220 Sept 28, 2011 Lecture3 Last week: comparison of Marx and Weber's ideas of inequality >Marx's concept of "historical materialism" >discussion (based on Baldus' article), on why Marx's idea of 2 class system is no longer (as?) relevant Marx and Weber Marx= class >centrality of labour and its relationship to the commodity >production relations are the basis of economic transacitons (micro and global) >ideas are important, but it is the SOCIAL CONTEXT in which they emerge >silver spoon in a mouth >economic relas key to explaining hisotrical social change; he focused... >as a result of this 2 class system: Alienation 1. workers, through their labour, are the ones responsible for the wealth that is generated, but get only a fraction of it 2. DOL: different workers do different taks in order to get the job done quickly, efficiently, etc (e.g. of the factory) Weber= status >was not anti-Marx; saw Marx as a great thinker and an intellectual influence >like Marx, Weber also saw classes as economic categories BUT for Weber, the classes develope out of a market, where people share common situations >therefore have similar economic interests and life chances >lifestyles... condos and tv's are aimed at ppl's status.. lifestyles.. >he agreed with Marx about the property/no-property distinctino BUT argues that there are different kinds of property, different kinds of goods to make >things more complex than a 2-class model > +2 classes to Marx's propertied and non-propertied classes: seperated the bourgeiosie into those who control large amount of property (big capitalists), and those with smaller amounts (petty bourgeoisie) Propertyless classes divided according to skill: >working class (manual labour power) >those with more marketable training and skills (specialists, technicians, white-collar emps, civils servants) Now 2 middle classes: 1. owners of small independent stores/biz and farms 2. salaried nonmanual labour class with special education (e.g. law or medicine, sciences, accouting, office mgmt) Weber and status -status groups have distintive ways of life, or life styles -status groups are distinguishable from one another not on economic grounds but in terms of social honour -status groups are defined by the power that comes from the social honour, or prestige, distributed w/in the status order -when economic power is also a basis for both social honour and subjective group awareness, then a social class is also a status group -class and status groups are not nec. related in a one-to-one correspondence -the power they
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