Philosophy 2200F/G Lecture Notes - Noble Savage, Total War

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Published on 11 Jul 2012
School
Western University
Department
Philosophy
Course
Philosophy 2200F/G
WEEK 4 LECT 2
HOBBES
SOW
Everyone has the right to everything in the state of nature
Limitations come in the limited form of the State of nature
EQUALITY IN WAR
Need state power because we benefit from it
We’re not so unequal that when you’re sleeping someone couldn’t come and kill you
No one so weak that they can’t threaten another – a general bodily equality and mental equality
as well no one so smart that they can afford to not be friendly
If you are honest with yourself then you will know that we are all equal. Given that our lives are
understood as individuals we are weak in relation to one another because of our weakness
In a SON we are all vulnerable to an attack, basic equality leads to diffidence (distrust of others)
the fact of equality leads to the fact that without any state power, we have to live in a situation
where we distrust others
Distrust becomes something that leads to a situation that could be described as war of every
many against every man (total war). Form alliances to accomplish a certain goal without this it
leads to total fear
Even in where state power isn’t total there are pockets of places where you feel unsafe
In the state of nature the fact of equality leads to a situation that is undesirable for everyone,
leads to a state of total war, life is nasty brutish and short
Commonly thought that there were noble savage that lived in peace in the SON, Hobbes doesn’t
accept this theorem
In places where government lacks is where a true state of nature lived
No one wants to live in a place when that place is at war there are no riches to be made here
The fact that nothing is happening doesn’t mean that they are not in a state of war – no such
thing as injustice
Social contract theory to be doing things between the state and the individual and to establish
morality on the basis of a social contract, there is no such thing as justice in the SOW it is only
possible when yuo have a state to enforce duties
Always an inclination toward peace even in a time of total war
Defines liberty as impediments to something, no legal impediments to achieving whatever you’d
like, may be others who lay claim to things but there are no legal impediments you are legally
free
Liberties are that which there are no impediments, a law imedes your ability to do something
law limits, right allows
The more hope there is of achieving peace, the more we should want it, the more we are bound
to the laws of nature
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Everyone has the right to everything in the state of nature. Limitations come in the limited form of the state of nature. Need state power because we benefit from it. We"re not so unequal that when you"re sleeping someone couldn"t come and kill you. No one so weak that they can"t threaten another a general bodily equality and mental equality as well no one so smart that they can afford to not be friendly. If you are honest with yourself then you will know that we are all equal. Given that our lives are understood as individuals we are weak in relation to one another because of our weakness. Distrust becomes something that leads to a situation that could be described as war of every many against every man (total war). Form alliances to accomplish a certain goal without this it leads to total fear.

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