Philosophy 3003F/G Lecture Notes - Lecture 11: Glaucon

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Book ii classification of goods: value for own sake (not for consequences, value for own safe and for consequences **finest goods, value for consequences (not for own sake) Final value = subjective or the way we value. Socrates has to prove that justice is valuable for its own sake, not just for its consequences. Intrinsic value vs. extrinsic value = objective or the value things actually have: valuable naturally, doesn"t relationally depend on anything, value is essential to it. Extrinsic value: depends relationally on other things in the world, value depends on other things in the world. Korsgaard thinks that plato and glaucon are wrong in their definition: plato = we should find our ends in intrinsic goods, justice is both intrinsic and extrinsically valuable, glaucon/thras. = justice has extrinsic value and therefore, instrumental. Socrates needs to prove that justice is both good it itself and good for other things.

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