Gender Studies II
EN2012 – Winter 2011 – Terry Goldie
Lecture 5 – ‘Witting’ – Feb 3
Film – Featuring Michelle Williams and Chloe Sevigne
- Women is a feminist term, not a lesbian term; chosen for feminist reasons to be
lesbians, not clear if they have innate feelings for males.
- Judging others for being ‘not enough of something’: butches are representation
of male hierarchy (wearing ties), and butches judge others as victims (due to
- Bartender does not want to serve women, sees other females as part of the
problem: ‘hidden’ minorities, i.e. gays and lesbians (historically), want to stay in.
- Feminist lesbians, young want to enter this place because they feel they belong.
- Butch takes on leadership role same role as in heterosexuality.
- Two stereotypically masculine moments (by getting women is to act big and
tough): when Chloe admits that she doesn’t smoke, and when she doesn’t know
what to do.
- Knows that Michelle wants masculinity but not an actual male; Michelle acts in a
way responsive to Chloe’s treatment.
- Does Chloe represent the Female-to-male transgendered person?
- Masculine (dominance) versus femininity (vulnerable, passivity, object).
- Chloe (the looker) while Michelle (the object being looked at) shows through the
camera angles and how the camera treats each character differently.
- Witting: we don’t need this, and we eliminate all the power problems in society.
- If lesbians get rid of gender roles both masculinity and femininity.
- If a female feels caught by the gender dynamics or an identity, then gender roles
are a problem; double meaning: wants empowerment from it but also wants to
not be limited by it.
- The labels of gender roles are the problem.
- Fear of eliminating gender roles is that sexual identity is attached to our