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Lecture 17

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Department
Humanities
Course
HUMA 1105
Professor
Donald A Burke
Semester
Fall

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Book 3 It is not until book 15 Athena tells Odysseus to return to Ithaka Themes: Homecoming, hospitality, & story-telling The telemachy is suggested to be composed of a different poet of the Iliad, scholars debate th 17-18 century- neo plascisim , looking back into the classics for their own works, their own stories of Telemachos Book 3 can be divided into 3 prominent subsections: 1) Telemachos’ arrival at Nestor’s country. Book 3 ends with sacrifices and Telemachos’ journey to The first sacrifices in book 3 are made to Poseidon and Athena. There is a contrast between Nestor’s house (his is religious) can be contrasted to Odysseus’s house at Ithaka, the chaos there. Nestor had a successful homecoming vs. Odysseus’ failure to return Nestor’s religious house vs. Menelaos grand palace When Telemachos arrives at Nestor’s place, they see them sacrificing 9 ___ for Poseidon Poseidon isn’t necessarily a villain, he is just delaying Odysseus’ homecoming The importance of sacrifices to the gods are seen here, especially Poseidon When Nestor’s sons see these “strangers” they tell them to come and have a feast. Nestor’s son is dutifully offering wine and food to these “strangers” and until after the feast, they don’t ask who they are. This is the importance of hospitality The host-guest relationship: Nestor has good hospitality vs. the people at Odysseus’ home Offerings to Poseidon is necessary for successful sea voyage. Book 9 of the Iliad, a feast takes place before they get to business, same things happens here Nestor asks the identity of the strangers and Telemachos responds by saying he is Odysseus’ son, wanting to find out the news of his father’s whereabouts. Nestor says how Aias and others have been killed in their journey to return home. Nestor recognizes Telemachos as Odysseus’ son through his speech, it is similar to Odysseus’. Athena was responsible for the troubling homecoming of Atreus’ sons: Agamemnon and Menelaos Menelaos wanted to go home, but Agamemnon suggested staying in Troy and making sacrifices to Athena to make her happier. Half of the Argives stays with Agamemnon, half of them leave. Nestor says he hasn’t seen Odysseus since he saw him leaving Troy. Telemachos learns about the warriors who didn’t have a successful homecoming such as Agamemnon who retuned but got slaughtered by Aigisthios. The two sons of Atreus marry the two sisters, one of them being Helen (Menelaos). In homer’s version of Agamemnon’s death, the blame is on Aigisthios. 263: According to Nestor, Agamemnon’s wife is initially unwilling to go with Aigisthios. Agamemnon leaves a singer to watch over her and whatnot. It is important for Agamemnon to leave his son behind so he can avenge Agamemnon’s death. 304-314: Telemachos can either win glory like Orestes, or he can be screwed over Nestor goes on to tell Telemachos he knows the condition of his home in Ithaka, and how Athena will have his back like how she had Odysseus. Telemachos says this will be an honour, and Athena in turn Nestor has lived through 3 generations. Telemachos asks for details of Agamemnon’s death, and why Menelaos wasn’t there to help him. Nestor initially offers a horse and a chariot and his own son to travel with Telemachos to travel with him until he reaches Sparta. After Nestor finished his speech, Athena suggests to make sacrifices for Poseidon. The book ends with sacrifices, like how it starts with sacrifices. Nestor insists for them to stay in his palace to sleep in his palce than on the ships. Athena then goes back to sleep on the ship, Telemachos in the palace When Athena leaves in her grace, they know she’s a god, so they return to Nestor’s home to make sacrifices for Athena. The following morning, they have a ritual feast; they have a gold smith guilding the horns of a cow or bull??? The wrap of thigh bone and fat, similar to hesioad’s Theogony sacrifices. Only a part of the animal is reserved for the god, the best parts are for the humans Telemachos is rubbed with olive oil, this is part of hospitality rights Nestor’s son accompanies Telemachos as they
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