The crucial parts of knowing Locke for reading Berkeley are few
the sense are perceiver dependent
external objects are perceiver independent
primary/secondary quality distinction
substance and the substances material
Berkeley will dispute Locke's four points here of the external world epistemology
dialogue begins with Hylas telling Philonous on a previous conversation the night before. Philonous
was the topic of conversation because he is a sceptic.
The issue is of material substance and because Philonous denies such a thing he is a shown to be a
lacking in common sense and being a sceptic
Hylas is going to support the position that there is material substance he is going to take a Lockean
and Philonous is going to take the Berkelian position
what Philonous is going to show how Hylas that believing in material substance is the sceptical
position and that Berkeley’s position is non-sceptical position.
Philonous is going to enquire from Hylas by what he means of scepticism. He accused him being a
sceptic so in order to correctly clarify Philonous asks Hylas what do you mean by sceptic?
The answer that gives is the general answer. (prof's pet peeve: 1. it should be people for who not and
things for that.) One who doubts everything
Philonous is going to eventually show that eh doesn't doubt everything. In fact he's going to take a
poisition that is sceptic resistant.
Bottom of page 11
Through the dfferent movements of the dialogue, Philonous gets Hylas to admit his mistakes.
One who accepts that existence of matter is a greater sceptic
Again Hylas refines his position and the bottom of page 11
this will happen all throughout the dialogue. Hylas will continually refine his position as he is correct
by P Wherever a claim can be accepted without argument that is the sceptic
what he wants Philonous to show him is which one of us denies the reality of things or professes the
greater ignorance of them
either denying the reality of sensible-meaning things that are sensed by the senses-
(prof is okay with essays in a dialogue form. NOT EASY but can really good and interesting.)
It's very hard sometimes with this exchange in the three dialogues to figure out which points to
there's a lot of back and forth which really doesn't contribute to our real understanding
So Hylas at the beginning seems to take the position of naive realism.
Hylas is making a distinction between the objects that exists and the perception of that object
to exist and perceive are completely different
i ask whether...
what phil is suggesting that the
there is stuff in the external world independent of our perceptions
Hylas is going to take the position that the book out there is light and two inches by five inches, etc
they begin their sensory discussion with heat
Hylas says what ever degree of heat....
whatever heat we perceive is in the object according to Hylas
e.g. Take a bucket of water and put one had in a fridge for a couple of minute and then put both hands
in the bucket
each hand will feel differently. (found bottom of page 17)
any doctrine that contains an absurdity(a contradiction) is false according to Philonous
any theory that contains a contradic