PHIL-105 FA2 Lecture 5: Lecture Notes 2/7/2017

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Published on 28 Mar 2017
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American University
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PHIL - PHILOSOPHY
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PHIL-105 FA2
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Lecture Notes 2/7/2017
Tuesday, February 7, 2017
12:52 PM
Zizeki! Documentary reaction paper worth 2 extra credit points
The telescope is what put her inn relationship with the stars and the sun but it is not the same as
actually explaining what the telescope itself is to someone
This is what Socrates is trying to say
Yes, we love things that are beautiful and it draws those things to our attention but love is not
them, it is relational
According to Socrates, love is lack
You only desire that which you lack, you don't desire what you already have
If love desires beauty and goodness than love cannot itself be beautiful because it wouldn't
desire beauty if it already had it
The space of tension that what you have could disappear
Diotima speech
Love as daimonic (spirit that comes in goes)
The in between of love
Love was born of drunken love meeting between wealth and poverty
Diotima seems to be describing Socrates when "she" is describing love
He is basically describing himself as the most knowledgeable in loving
Directed towards immortality
Better and worse ways to love
The relationship to good is an internal relationship
It's impossible to love something that is bad, it is just a misfire and a mistake
Knowledge will help you to love better
Reaffirming something's beauty when you love it
Immortality manifests itself within the birth of babies
It is a way of living on
All pregnant whether in body or mind and we have to agree to let the birth happen
Ladder of love of Diotima
Diotima takes parts of all of the speeches and mixes them together in her own interpretation of what
love actually should be defined as
Alcibaides knocks on the door, drunk, with a bunch of flute players in tow
The beginning of this play begins with an exclusion of music and drinking and it comes back in
full force when Alcibaides comes in
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Documentary reaction paper worth 2 extra credit points. The telescope is what put her inn relationship with the stars and the sun but it is not the same as actually explaining what the telescope itself is to someone. This is what socrates is trying to say. Yes, we love things that are beautiful and it draws those things to our attention but love is not them, it is relational. You only desire that which you lack, you don"t desire what you already have. If love desires beauty and goodness than love cannot itself be beautiful because it wouldn"t desire beauty if it already had it. The space of tension that what you have could disappear. Love as daimonic (spirit that comes in goes) Love was born of drunken love meeting between wealth and poverty. Diotima seems to be describing socrates when she is describing love. He is basically describing himself as the most knowledgeable in loving.