CAMS 001 Lecture Notes - Lecture 4: Lycians, Sarpedon, Odysseus
Book 9
They send Achilles an embassy because they want him
back in the battle
Wealth(wives, land, tripods) and Briseis
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Send Odysseus, Ajax, and Phoenix
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Meleager
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Book 16
Patroclus is tired of sitting around and watching his
companions die
Asks Achilles if he can go to battle to scare the
Trojans
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Takes Achilles' armor and enters battle
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Was supposed to get the Trojans off their camp and
return
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Sarpedon- King of Lycians, ally of Troy
Dies even though his father is Zeus
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Patroclus killed by Hector
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Discussion Questions
Achilles' Fates as told by is mother
Fight in battle/be glorious/die young
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Stay home/die old/be unknown
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Achilles' argues that fighting is not paying off
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Has anger/spite towards Agamemnon
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Fate/Destiny
Zeus can alter fate, but its bad
Ensure destiny unfolds correctly
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Controls fates of individuals
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Some changes
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Prophecy of Thetis
Achilles' fate is unknown, he has options
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When men die they are meeting their fate
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Tomb/Burial
Honor/Remembrance
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Body can't be mutilated or striped
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Who is responsible for Patroclus' death?
Patroclus
Asks Achilles for the armor
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Doesn’t listen to Achilles
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Annoys Apollo
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Apollo
First to hit Patroclus
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Achilles
Let him take the armor in the first place
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Let his obsession with wanting honor overcome
protecting his friend
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Trying to prove a point to Agamemnon
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Prayed for Greeks to die, happens to include his
best friend
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Hector
Delivers the killing blow
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Least responsible of everyone
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Zeus
Ignores Achilles' prayer to protect Patroclus
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Still mad about Sarpedon
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Euphorbus
Only shows up to hit Patroclus in battle
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Destiny
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Heroes
Gain glory
Trophies
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Battle
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Killing (very strong/good at battle)
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Better than other men
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Cannot strive to be a god
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In order to be remembered after death
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Occupy the middle balance between gods and men
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Iliad Books 9, 16 Discussion
Friday, January 19, 2018
10:12 AM