PHIL 001 Lecture Notes - Polemarchus, Glaucon, Thrasymachus

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Monty python argument (argument clinic video on youtube) Prof skipped socrates" clarification (332c-335e) simonides was speaking in riddles . Argument rat"l process when you add up a bunch of claims. Four problems that plato raised for the conventional life (thru plato) Good life thru conventional rule: arguments problematic, today: another attempt to defn good life (according to natural state two caricatures loving/altruistic way of life vs. aggressive) Two rejections in reading: conventional way of life is conceptually flawed four times in debate. Thrasymachus flawed b/c bad desc of what actually happens. Plato offering principled explanation of why conventional is problematic; description may be the case (today?) People are self-interested and follow conventional rules b/c rules benefit ppl. So, conventional life isn"t what we take it to be; cover for those who want to live natural life (benefit self), better way. Natural life dictim (nld) getting negative defn. Stronger will not act justly and the weak will.

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