POL200Y1 Lecture : notes
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Lecture: finishing thrasymachus, transition to book 2, glaucon"s challenge, adeimantus" speech, soul/state analogy, city of pigs, educating warriors, censorship + other provisions. Finishing thrasymachus: tries to "unmask" justice as merely high-minded moral talk. A consequence of this is a diminished respect for justice and the unbridled pursuit of power and wealth . Socrates attempts to defuse his argument by using the argument that crafts/arts are not employed so as to benefit the possessor, but the subject. Thrasymachus counters this by giving examples of arts which do in fact benefit the possessor (i. e. torture). [344c/d: thrasymachus represents the theorist who admires the winner who unabashedly acquires all that he can for his own good. This is parallel to athenian thinking at this time: thrasymachus steers his argument in a different direction. At first he attempts to demonstrate how justice works. Then later, he reveals his own ideas about justice/injustice. In conclusion, he believes that injustice pays and justice is.