- By Daniel Clowes
- Creates a story – recovery of older narrative forms – 3 act play – father’s comic
- David’s history – and his father’s history
- Clowes speaks to the making of art and the valuing of artifice (deception) over realism
- Possibility? Believability?
- Detective story -> solutions to mysteries?
- Clowes says it needs to be read carefully three or four times
- Images and notions and words in your head that mix together and create linkages between each
- Writing david boring was very similar to reading a detective story – where you have these clues
you need to put together
- Putting all of the randomness of the world together
- Clowes says: “I don’t like to manipulate the audience unless its in a very sadistic way, where
they are not rewarded in the end” – we may find all the pieces to the puzzle but when we put it
together does it make a recognizable picture?
- Realist world
- Constant straining away
- Pulp fiction / B movies
- Fantasy / Fairy tales
- Self-reflective narratives
- Special emphasis is given in whole series of illustrations to girls’ buttocks – love of the butt may
lead to rigid fetishistic tendencies in fantasy or actual life – from psychoanalysis and Rorschach
studies there may be a relationship to early homosexual attitudes
- By Jon Adams
- Contrast between hero and villain – powerful contrast between the two is that they have strong
similarities – their different approaches to dealing with the same dilemma despite being so
similar are especially important – inside of these similarities, instructive differences become
- Conventions of the superhero genre
- Active and effective? Or:
o Passive and bumbling?
o Petty vengefulness
o Casual cruelty
o Arbitrary intervention - The quality of the realistic hero as an outsider
- Marvel heroes were the other – marked exotic ethnicity – relevancy was encoded in idea that
anyone who looked or acted out the way marvel’s heroes did, would be regarded as freaks by all
the straights – Christopher sorrentino
- The book is basically about the everyday life of superheroes – what a town would be like if
superheroes just lived normally together
- Lester’s company’s closing is autobiographical to a company shutting down in Jon Adams’ life –
they shut down over night, owed money and took art
- Optical illusions adds throughout the book – saying something about reality?
- Lester fictionalizes the lives of “superheroes” to create “lies”
- Likewise, Adams fictionalizes, or satirizes, the comics industry to expose its lies, thereby
1. That the comics industry is beholden to formulas and
2. That all there is, is superhero ideology (pages 8-10)
- Does the superhero have a social function outside the comic book?
- Superhero in a fictional world?
- Superhero in the reader’s world?
- How are superheroes “ideological constructions” in our own world?
- Does this superhero ideology translate into the social realm?
- Miller: superhero is no longer a representative of popular consciousness but instead is a
questioning of popular consciousness – superhero is still around though