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Plato Five Dialogues- Reading Notes Sept.16,2010

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PHL200Y1: Sept.16,2010
Plato: Five Dialogues
Socrates: Scepticism and Deadly Conviction
Plato: Apology
The apology claims to be a record of the actual speech Socrates gave as his defense
during his trial, Plato specifically mentions that he was present at the trial
Historical accuracy was not the same as what is expected today however the Apology
was written shortly after therefore remembering the actual speech is entirely
possible, by getting the speech wrong would be no way to honour the master
`The beauty of the language and style is Plato but the serene spiritual and moral
beauty of character belongs to Socrates`
Case 501, Athenian juries were very large, included judge, duties included convicting
and sentencing, a group of this size would not be able to agree on punishment
oProsecutor after conviction, assessed the penalty
oCounter-assessment by defendant
oJury decide between the two
People of Athens among the many lies my accusers have said what most surprised
me is that you should `not be deceived by an accomplished speaker like me`
I am not an accomplished speaker, unless an accomplished speaker speaks the truth
I will speak the truth and nothing embellished as my accusers do, but if you hear me
speaking the kind of language I use in the marketplace dont be offended
For many years there have been those who accuse me and persuade you from
childhood, rumours of a man called Socrates student of all things who makes the
worst argument strongermisleads to believe that those who study such things do
not believe in the gods
It is hard to accuse and make those who create rumours stand trial for they are in
the shadows however their accusations have taken place for longer than simply today
What is Socrates accused of: refer to page 24
Socrates has never charged students a fee, as it is rumoured he has, but he feels it is
necessary to spread knowledge, however there is no shame in taking a fee as many
tutors do
Socrates suggests that what has made his reputation so is that fact that he
possessed human wisdom, when asked of his occupation, although he means not to
boast he suggests that perhaps his accusers do not have such wisdom
oSites when Chaerephon asked the Pythian if anyone was wiser than Socrates
oHe then learned that perhaps he was wiser than most because even though
no one has anything worthwhile to say at least he recognizes that he has
nothing worthwhile to say
He then discovered those of highest reputation, least knowledgeable, vice versa
In his search to find someone who was wiser he took up many disciplines
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PHL200Y1: Sept.16,2010 Plato: Five Dialogues Socrates: Scepticism and Deadly Conviction Plato: Apology The apology claims to be a record of the actual speech Socrates gave as his defense during his trial, Plato specifically mentions that he was present at the trial Historical accuracy was not the same as what is expected today however the Apology was written shortly after therefore remembering the actual speech is entirely possible, by getting the speech wrong would be no way to honour the master The beauty of the language and style is Plato but the serene spiritual and moral beauty of character belongs to Socrates Case 501, Athenian juries were very large, included judge, duties included convicting and sentencing, a group of this size would not be able to agree on punishment o Prosecutor after conviction, assessed the penalty o Counter-assessment by defendant o Jury decide between the two People of Athens among the many lies my accusers have said what most surprised me is that you should not be deceived by an accomplished speaker like me I am not an accomplished speaker, unless an accomplished speaker speaks the truth I will speak the truth and nothing embellished as my accusers do, but if you hear me speaking the kind of language I use in the marketplace dont be offended For many years there have been those who accuse me and persuade you from childhood, rumours of a man called Socrates student of all things who makes the worst argument strongermisleads to believe that those who study such things do not believe in the gods It is hard to accuse and make those who create rumours stand trial for they are in the shadows however their accusations have taken place for longer than simply today What is Socrates accused of: refer to page 24 Socrates has never charged students a fee, as it is rumoured he has, but he feels it is necessary to spread knowledge, however there is no shame in taking a fee as many tutors do Socrates suggests that what has made his reputation so is that fact that he possessed human wisdom, when asked of his occupation, although he means not to boast he suggests that perhaps his accusers do not have such wisdom o Sites when Chaerephon asked the Pythian if anyone was wiser than Socrates o He then learned that perhaps he was wiser than most because even though no one has anything worthwhile to say at least he recognizes that he has nothing worthwhile to say He then discovered those of highest reputation, least knowledgeable, vice versa In his search to find someone who was wiser he took up many disciplines www.notesolution.com
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