Paul Gilbert o contrasts the Hobbesian view of community life with a more communitarian (Hegelian influenced) conception o For Hobbes, a community and a state are the same It is the state, that voluntary association of individuals who come together for mutual advantage, which defines community. Therefore, for Hobbes, terrorism poses a threat to community life because it threatens its basis in the coercive enforcement of rules and laws. o The communitarian view, on the other hand, sees community and state as separate entities. o Hobbesian an attack on the state is a threat to a community Provides inadequate resources what kind of threat does terrorism pose to a community? A community is not merely an association of individuals joined together for mutual advantage, but is somewhat of an end in itself (to use Immanuel Kants expression), that is, the community has value which is not merely pragmatic or instrumental. o The community consists of (an organic) relation between members where the goal of mutual recognition is aimed at. Gilbert tells us: o What the Communitarian conception requires is that relations other than those of power relations vis vis the state should be able to determine communal identity. Communitarian conception sees the community as independent of the state o These are essentially reciprocal relations in which members recognize the claims each has on the others in pursuit of a common interest. o These reciprocally recognized claims are embodied in the rules of the community. The common interest normally generated by living together in the same place is not restricted to the avoidance of conflict between members but extends to whatever is required for living together well. It is the rules for promoting this, often as vague an unspoken as are the aims they serve, whose scope determines a community. It is breaches of the rules that may call for the use of coercive power. But the existence of the rules is an expression of reciprocity, not of power relations, of mutual agreement, not of individual submission.