PHIL10003 Lecture 19: disinterested liking, subjective universality
15 Jun 2018
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Lecture 19: disinterested liking, subjective universality
Disinterested liking
• Interest: to take pleasure in
• The good: like through its concept
• Intrinsically good: like for its own sake
• Pleasure that involves knowledge
• The world ould e differet ut it does’t atter as log as you uderstad it
• If you understand moral ideas, you will want the world to be that way -> 'intrinsically
good'
• We should be moved by the sheer force of ideas
• Good for = usefulness -> less obvi -> there are means that are 'good for' bad ends
• If something is good for a bad end, when u understand that, you wont want it to exist ->
rational connection betw goodness and good form
Beauty and good
• Traditional connection
• Can appreciate beauty = mark of sophisticated mind
• Trying to engage w and oppose rationalist views of beauty
• Beauty as a form of perfection relies on the concept of perfection -> WRONG
• Flowers, free designs, lines endlessly intertwined -> beauty in terms of form -> RIGHT WAY
Empirical interest
• Dev a sense of community
• Doing to impress others
• The whole game of expecting to be judge and to judge is shared in community
• not central to aesthetic judgement
Intellectual interest
• Character building
• Sophistication in knowing beauty
• Beauty in general (art, nature) -> mistake -> to be interested in natural beauty = sign of
good character, interested in artistic beauty - not sign of good bc art can lie
• Kant recognizes the interest in beauty and art to dev characteristic
• Not relevant to pure judgements of taste
Positive lessons
• Judgements of beauty linked w presentation in the subj
• Also linked w reflection
• Kant's example of (free) beauty -> model of what he thinks beauty is like
When I say … is beautiful..
• I can reasonably expect everyone to agree w me
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Document Summary
Intrinsically good: like for its own sake: the good: like through its concept, pleasure that involves knowledge, the world (cid:272)ould (cid:271)e differe(cid:374)t (cid:271)ut it does(cid:374)"t (cid:373)atter as lo(cid:374)g as you u(cid:374)dersta(cid:374)d it. If something is good for a bad end, when u understand that, you wont want it to exist -> rational connection betw goodness and good form. Empirical interest: dev a sense of community, doing to impress others, the whole game of expecting to be judge and to judge is shared in community, not central to aesthetic judgement. Judgements of beauty linked w presentation in the subj: also linked w reflection, kant"s example of (free) beauty -> model of what he thinks beauty is like. I can reasonably expect everyone to agree w me. Implied by first movement (disinterest) -> if im completely unbiased, whatever leads me to like it applies to everyone else.
