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Lecture 5

Travesti Lecture 5 and 6

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Andrea Muehlebach

Lecture 3: Travesti Chapter 3 and 5 Outline for Today’s Lecture - What are the cultural logics of travesti identity - Normativity (what it is and how people live through norms) - Policing the boundaries of normativity - Hand out of essay question 1 o New Deadline: October 13, 2013 at 5pm - Don Kulick writes a powerful argue, for us to train ourselves to think outside for what we think is a binary proposition - With binary, it is any kind of things that have two parts to it - These two symbols we see everyday, ie. when we go to the bathroom o We hardly mention this because we coordinate ourselves to these two signs - Kulick says that it is only in this particular kind of take of gender, that transgender makes sense o The biological man who doesn’t feel and doesn’t behave like a man, can make sense through the symbolic logic that we live in (based on reproductive organ) - The kind of logic in terms of travesti lives are organized are extremely different - He spends enough time with travesti to leave behind this biological based gender - Transsexulaism or “third gender” identities only make sense in a cultural context where the primary binary is male/female o (And where male female is thought to be determined by sexual organs) The Cultural Logics of Travesti Identity - Man/Woman binary - Versus travesti logics of man/ non-man How is this System Organized? - “Non-Man” o Women o Queens o Viados o Travesti o Some clients - The difference is the fundamental distinction of what you do with your reproductive organs - Kulick is not just arguing a particular kind of gender distinction that is operative among travesti, but this distinction might be prevalent in part of Latin American culture o There is just not enough evidence o Also there is small evidence that males had same sex sex, but it wasn’t classified as homosexual because they operated under a different framework - The “Man” o Is the fact that you are penetrating with your reproductive organs makes you a man o The sexual partner can either be male or female (biologically speaking), but the fact that you are the one doing the penetrating is what makes you a man Show us that - Identity is a process - Identity is a relationship - Every identity rest on distinction - Identity is about boundary making o For travesti it is important that distinctions are made Gender - Women, viados, some clients (who enjoy penetration), queens and ravesti share the same gender o This has nothing to do with sex (the biological organs born with), but what you do with your biological organs - The travesti framework has little to do with biological sex and everything to do with sexuality - Importantly, this is not about playing with binaries or creating a “third gender” o This is about clarifying a (culturally specific) binary and policing the boundaries of this
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