[The below was written with a talk to text program in my first reading of the book Plato’s
Republic. As such grammar, spelling and syntax are most likely wrong and anyone who
chooses to use the below should use caution as the following may either need a degree of
interpretation or not be in sync with class official opinions. They are merely rough notes one
can use to compare with their own class notes and opinions of the readings.]
The Arts & Education
Among the various books for there is support for censorship over knowledge of freedom as well
all things effeminate including weeping and wailing.
The object of the good man or the Guardian is that of a noble comrade, he is not to consider
death to be terrible in any means. And because the Guardian has not witnessed literature of
sorrow he will not languish for his departed friends and compatriots.
Go on to not give the Guardian laughter, for laughter has been shown to lead to indulgences of
excess which almost always produces a violent reaction furthermore literature was not be
allowed per book two .
Truth is highly valued a lie is useless to the gods and useful only as a medicine man and as such
medicine should be restricted to physicians. Thus if anyone should have the privilege of lying it
should be the rulers for the public good. The rulers should punish any to introduce the practice of
lying, as it introduces the subversive and destructive practice [Noble lie]
After concept of global line introduces the concept of children not having a family and no
knowledge of parents
Moves on to condemn literature and nine gods cannot the authors of evil-this can be defined
law/virtues*PG. 47*could be tied into book 1 they shall have to say men: poets, storytellers are guilty of making agree with the hotel is that
wicked men are often the miserable; and that justice is profitable but undetected, facial make
them say and sing the opposite. They still have not determined what justice is and how not to be
advanced to scratch the and how naturally advantageous to possessor.
The speakers are public seem to think human nature is a series of imitations broken down into
smaller parts and in limiting each person to only allow doing one role they cannot succeed in
doing tragedy humour and thus imitating.. Although I might have read wrong the guardians are
not allowed to do imitations beat in acting or in other professions or speech such that of a
The music adopted for the Republic is courageous simple and carefully chosen to represent the
heroism of the people. Simplicity style beauty courage. The arts will help to guide philosophers
for ruler's into fruition.
The philosopher, associates and lesser are equated to metals with the highest being gold moving
down too brass
The offspring are not equated to that of their parentage, the traits of a good ruler should be
looked for in all the castes and no despise should be placed on a child because of their moving
A shared property among the guardians and they shall not be allowed gold for it will spoil them
and turn them to avarice and greed. A salary will be granted for living expenses.
The rulers are to be told their youth was a dream, manufactured to care for the citizens. They will
be told they are brothers to the citizens yet the gods give them a different mettle.
The ones who cannot make it are to be made auxiliaries. Book 4 Wealth Poverty and Virtue
Adeimantus interposed a question that the state has every fortune accessible i.e. gold, silver but
they live in misery starving themselves of luxury.
However Socrates states that they might be the happiest of men as in founding the state it was
not to support disproportionate happiness of one class with the greatest happiness of the whole;
this is how they thought they were most likely to find justice.
In giving lecture to the people they state that Potter would not be the Potter or the cobbler, the
cobbler; no have the character of any distinct class in the state. It is important not to think of
guardians as peasants and Festival enjoying a life of revelry, not of citizens were doing their duty
to the state something different altogether. The question arises should guardians be considered on
an individual level or that of the whole when determining their cockiness and if it is the latter
should be compelled or induced to their work in the best way for that of the state and thus the
classes are to receive their happiness in proportion to which nature assigns them.
When the Potter becomes rich he does not take as many paintings art becomes careless and
indolent; if his quality decreases greatly he will have no money and cannot provide himself with
tools and instruments, moreover if he has no money he will not be able to teach his sons or
apprentices. So under influence of either poverty or wealth and spread thereof is an evil in itself
and the guardians must watch it's spreading.
State must be above all self-sufficient, as that it can increase so far as it is consistent with unity.
There's a philosophy here that a person born into a certain position in life and not there are
among us naturally superior persons. This is tying into the concept of virtues and that there are
universal features of good, evil and justice.
Above all the attention of the rulers should be directed to preserve music and gymnastics in their
original form and no innovation to be made for when innovation is introduce fundamental laws
of the state will change with them. Closer to be enacted in the minimum not to regulate the person in every facet of being i.e. with
garments or shoes and how they are worn. Furthermore on legislation the matters of daily tasks
such as market and harbor police and the like… People will pose them as necessary and as they
Wisdom-good councils clearly a kind of knowledge for not but ignorance of my knowledge the
main counsel does not by the knowledge of a carpenter with the knowledge of the perfect
guardians; and the citizens on knowing that they are the smallest class and the ruling class will
acknowledge that they are wise per the natural order of things.
Courage- the city will be courageous and virtue of a portion of herself which preserves under all
circumstances the opinion about the nature of things feared and not to be feared in which its
legislator educate them
Temperance-harmony and simply it is the ordering or controlling certain pleasures and desires" a
man is his own master". The human soul there is a better and worse, the better has the worst
control the medicine to the master himself but when owing to evil education or Association the
better principle is smaller and thus is overwhelmed by the greater mass of the worse keys blamed
and is called the slave of self
Justice-for justice see page  just to them is that each their own business. The three principles
mentioned before are in the man is associate the state to demand. Health is the institution of the
natural order and governments of one by another: creation of diseases production stated things at
variance with this natural order. Virtue is health and disease leads to vice, good practices lead to
virtue, and evil practices to vice. If a man then is given all wealth, power and vital essence you
will be allowed to do whatever he likes the single exception is not to acquire justice and virtue
order escape from injustice, and vice. Matrimony and Philosophy
Education is to be equal among men and women, rules, laws and labor are to be shared among
the same parameters as education and th