POLI 2P91 Lecture Notes - Lecture 4: Odysseus, Calchas, Childbirth
23 Sep 2015
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Two places to win honour, in the assembly and on the battlefield. Odysseus and nestor are noted for speaking well (and even achilles, too) But there is tension between speaking and doing. Thersites had not done enough to earn the right to speak. Four cases: diomedes and anylus (vi, 12) No one came to anylus" aid despite his reputation of being a good man: adrastus and agamemnon (vi, 54) Wanted to be a prisoner of war and let live to be ransomed later back to. Agamemnon believed no enemy should live: diomedes and glaucus (vi, 220) Exchanged gifts and parted ways: ajax and hector (vii, 315-6) Having an enemy that respects you is what is desired. Reputation is gained by fighting strong not weak. Question: how do homer"s views of honour and the enemy look, when viewed though. Agamemnon is partial: kill all the trojans no matter what. There is still respect seen between greeks and trojans.
