POLS 3130 Lecture Notes - Irony, Thrasymachus, Cephalus

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Plato"s the republic books 1-5, 7&8 focus on plato"s ideal city best city, best regime, just city, beautiful city, ruled by philosopher kings. Socrates seen as the mouthpiece for plato. Socrates known for socratic irony tact, know for his dissimulation. Raises questions but makes no speeches, a modest thing to do, not being boastful difficult to answer these questions. Dissembling his wisdom to not say things that are wise of insightful. If we know plato"s thoughts because he speaks through socrates, then do we really know what. Rich, well-respected elder and the host of the group. Interested in material pleasures interested in money and sex now rid of sexual desires as he is an old man doesn"t feel as much need to focus on wealth, but on repaying debt. Feels ultimately what is important is ones character lived in athens, but as not an. Suggests that justice means living up to legal obligations and being honest.

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