CLA160H1 Lecture Notes - Helots, Iron Age, Epic Poetry

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Email yuriy if youre confused about anything about proposal. Debate is about the survival, was not about justice or honour. Anyone as powerful as the athenians would do the same. The conclusion athenians demand surrender from the melians. How much bias was in the text itself. Poses athenians in bad light, crude, barbaric (strong, can do whatever they want) Probably more shocking to us than to the ancients. In favour of the romans, support the romans whatever what, but this thucudides is more tricky. Saw athens was heading down (in the war) Athenians were saying on pragmatical grounds, we have strength, and so we have the right. The gods come into play whatever the topic is. Unlike other historians i don"t care if its entertaining ( meaning herodotus) And speech was to reflect the general opinion of a group (a general"s speech to represent the athenians" opinion) This historian mostly relied on eye- witnesses (as hi main source)

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