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CLA 232 Jan. 31, 2011
Greeks vs. Barbarians
1.Spoke the same language (all Greeks)
a.Spartans, Athenians
2.Pan-Hellenic institutions
i.Compete, the person who one, the best Spartan, Athenian they would
say the best in the Greek world
3.Hesiod, Pan-Hellenic religious beliefs, sacrifice to same gods
4.Unite the Greek polis
a.Greeks different from one another
b.More similar to each other than Asians
c.Parallel to Canadian history, French, English, what unites Canadians, not
5.What defines the foreigner
a.Europe and Asia
6.Division, Hellespont, Asian and Europe
7.Language, Greek, Barbaroi, barbarbar.
8.Culture differences, major thing Greeks, Asian run by monarchies
a.Greeks thought they were free, self governing
9.Genos --- race
a.Not skin color, Greeks knew different people had different skin colors
b.Didnt find that interesting, closer to the sun thats why they are dark skin
c.What matter was cultural differences
d.Arrange marriage customs
e.Explore redefining the difference
i.Not as great as they thought
f. What makes them them
i.Rather than what makes us, us
10.Persian Wars 490 480 BCE
a.Trojans, classic Persians,
i. Iliad in Greek perspective
ii.Trojan not negative, Trojan characters are more sympathetic
1.Equals the Greeks
b.Persians, feminine, weak, slaves
i.Greeks manly and great
c.Greeks work together can overthrow
d.Culture superiority
11.Herodotus Histories
a.Herodotus history of Persian Wars
b.Herodotus of Halicarnass, his researches are here set down to preserve the
memory of the past by putting on record the astonishing achievements both
of our own and of other peoples, and more particularly, to show how they
came into conflict
c.Conflict and contact
d.What difference greek and Persia
e.Whats at stake?
f. Cultural contract and contrast comes into conflict
12.What started the war?
a.Geo-political doesnt start with that
b.Women, Persians quarrel with Phonieans
c.Trojan war
d.Why does he start it as conflict for women?
i.Makes it interesting like homer, parallel Iliad
e.Possible these are myths
f. Version of Persians tell
g. Include all the voice of other people
a.Represented reproduction
b. Intermixing between ethnic groups positive interactions
c. Io wanted to go? Thats what the men say
i.Positive, marriage, or negative, rape and insult?
14.Characters are mythical
a. Individuals symbolize effect the cultures at large
b.Physical interactions
i.Different cultural reactions
ii.Different perspectives
iii.The level of story telling
iv.Complicate altertity, Greek and barbarian
c.Even handed on perspectives
15.Doesnt judge, history how things come to war
16.This is what people say but another origin
a.Politics, power
17.Pinpoints this to one person, Croesus of Lydia
a.Not Persia, Lydian
b. Important
i.First contact with Greece, both conquest and alliance
c.Croesus was conquered by Cyrus of Persia
d.Early victims, model for the Greeks themselves
e.Victims of Xerxes
f. Alterity Asian, and Greeks
i.A model for Persian aggression
18.Solon comes to sartus and says with Croesuss… 29 33
a.Wise men wandering around Asia
b.Single out solon
c.Solon laws
d.There meeting of relationship of Asia and Greece
e.Greece by a law maker, Asia from a Monarch
f. Not by kings but by laws
i.Xenia, host
ii.Protected by Zeus itself
20.Who is the happiest man
a.Thinks he is the happiest man in the world
b.He has all this stuff
c.Wealth and power for Persian, Monarchy hands of individual, the most happy
is the King
21.Biggest army, most success
22.Greeks, based on virtue, piety, courage
a.Different cultural differences in the Persian war
b.Greek recognize that he is the happiest
c. Indicate Persians imperial ambitions
d.Also have recognize in Europe
23.Died a good death, section 30 he is the happiest
a.Funeral oration
c.2nd most happy, the brothers cleotest and byton
d.Physical strength has to get festival pull the ox cart to the festival
24.Solon from the average greek, pan-hellenic greek
25.Between the two nations
a.Definitions very different
b.Going to be the cause
c.Power from Greece, wealth and power, imperial Greece
d.Parents, gods and country
26.Lead to Persian war, manifested in the Persian war
a.Clash between two cultures
Solon says: The gods gives us trouble a man lives for 70 years
b.Every year 365 days, no hour is different
c.This time he is happy dont know what happens tomorrow until he is died
27.Great empire will fall, will be his own
a.Croesus, experiment, nobody c an guess, boils turtle and lamb what is he
b.Delphi most accurate
c.Huge amounts of wealth of Delphi, typical Asian
d.Buy happiness
e.Like Oedipus downfall
28.Croesus fights Cyrus
a.Captured and slave
b.Burned alive, 14 lydian children