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CLA233H1- Lecture March 27, 2012 Polytheists  Roman religion is highly traditional  One feature of Roman religion- repetition of formuli- say what your supposed to say exactly right even if you don’t understand it  Something bad happens and you look back and wonder whyit must be because someone did something wrong- an error in rites  The rituals prescribed were not handed down with original myth or explanation permanently attached to them myth and explanation do not necessarily go hand in hand  Differs In each century  In early roman religion supposedly no representation of the gods  Early religion described as the pure roman religion  Example or Roman religion and how a roman can talk about itcollects tidbits of Rome’s pastthe priest and priestess of Jupiterodd and archaic- citing older research about this  Don’t know what it means anymore someone would have to research it  Do the stories correspond to the actually history is a different question  Collection of oddities that have connected themselves to the Dialis  Complicated to be the priest- observe the traditions  Remissions and changes- people talk about whether the flaman really has to do all that stuff  Make it hard to be both the priest and apart of politics  Highly traditional- but things do change no one says they changed there has to be some kind of story to explain the change  Dialis sounds like he must be important there is no flaman Dialis in earlier periods  Young Julius Cesar was named Flaman Dialis  Augustus reinstates the office  Do you need a flaman Dialis?--> the other priests just started doing things without one  Flexibility or Roman mind- the right of war Marcus in Livy throwing the spear before a war at the other end of the earth  They fight a lot in their history do they always do this? No not to the other side of the world  Designate a patch near a temple and do their rite there and then go off to war  Don’t let religion stop them from going to war- find a way around it- improve  Improvisationseducing the enemies god to your side by promising a temple  They ask Juno if she wanted to go to Rome, she nods her head or someone says she nods her head so they take her to Rome  Parts of religion that seem to be all about improvisation civiline books  Don’t know what to do next so you need these old oracles to tell you  Where new religion and new rites can come from  Crisis and a consultation  Needs interpretation decided what it really means and translate from Greek  There’s a rite for that- if there’s a religious problem, consult the civiline books  Mognamater—says to bring her in—she doesn’t fit but they do it anyways civiline books say get more religion  Make her a new temple on the hill—offer new gods prime real-estate  A single precession from which romans are excluded she gets her own religion but the people aren’t really a part of it  Self castrated priest- wild music and dancing  Beyond traditional Roman religion  There springs up along side this religion a bunch of groups of people who are aristocrats who dine in the goddesses honor—games are set up  Roman religion sees lots of innovation especially in times or crisis  59 BC multiple simultaneous levels to worry about this is when Julius Cesar created a landfill for settling his veterans  Religious rejection  Co-council says he will watch the sky for omens—he’s able to do this  Believes the gods are unhappy and can say no business today political trick and religious  Logic is that the gods don’t like that legislation etc.  Says I am watching the sky indicating there are bad omens shouldn’t make any legislations  They go ahead and do it anyways  Are they valid or not?  Not supposed to pass legislation when someone says there are unfavorable omens but your not supposed to sit in your house and say your watching the sky for bad omens  There will be a conflict when there are overlapping interests in Rome Religious offices  Pontifex  Translate into man who creates bridges  Public and private worship  Goes back to Numafoundation for centuries of further ritual  They guard against ay irregularity against religious rights that arises rom neglect or introduction of foreign rights  Determine the manner that gods should be worshiped in, how to you cultivated the gods and the dead, what counts
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