Lecture 5, Part 1 - Plato and Socratic Law

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Department
Classical Studies
Course
Classical Studies 2301A/B
Professor
Randall Pogorzelski
Semester
Winter

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Lecture 5Plato and Socratic Law Part 1 y Socrates o Lived from 469399 BCE in AthensWealthy o Married to Xanthippe and had two sonsFulfilled civic duty o Fought bravely in the Peloponnesian War o As epistates of the prytaneis he refused to try the generals of the Battle of the Arginusae as a groupTried to do what he thought what was right under the 30 tyrantsIn many ways he was a typical Athenian in some ways eccentricResponsible politicianFamous enough that he gets made fun of in popular culture eg for being a sophisty Real power in Athens lies with good public speakers y Sophists taught young Athenian men to speak persuasively and with rhetoricy Teachers who specialized in using the tools of philosophy and rhetoric for the purpose of teaching predominantly to young statesmen and nobility y Socrates didnt charge anything for his school claimed he was teaching them how to speak the truth also said that there is no truth only persuasion y Weak masses invented morality to prevent the strong individuals from taking things from them o Criminals should do what they can get away withSocrates argues against this says this harms the perpetratoro Justice exists not something made up by the masses y Socrates not a typical sophist o In 399 BCE he was tried for and convicted of introducing new gods and corrupting young menReligious offenses could have been brought forward by his political enemiesIn 403 BCE the democracy was restored after the reign of the 30 TyrantsGeneral amnesty given for political offenses o He proposed that as a penalty he should be given free meals at state expense or maybe he should have to pay a fineOpponents proposed death and the jury chose the death penaltySentence not carried out right away imprisoned before execution y Prisons used to protect society hold people awaiting trial or execution o Not used as rehabilitation as it is today y The Five Things The Apology and the Crito
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