RELG 210 Lecture Notes - Lecture 17: Johanan Ben Zakai, Jacob Neusner, Simon Bar Kokhba

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Some people become leaders without necessarily wanting it. High priests tended to generate alternatives to themselves (eg; dead sea scroll community). Judas the galilean competes with herodias, romans, other pharisees --; explain why he has to be violent. Dead sea scroll; opposite because want to replace. John the baptiste: different kind of opposite, doesn"t require that high priest goes away. Some pharisees went to go get baptized; supplements other leadership types. Pharisees; may be a pest, but useful; increase power of high priests. Within given society there are finite ways of being a leader. A leader must draw upon ideal types of leader so people recognize them as a leader. We know less about john the baptist and judas the g. Then if we want to draw from jb to determine smt about jesus, would work if we knew more about jb. If we did to other ppl in 2nd temple. Tried historical johanan ben zakai, compiler of mishnah.

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